4 Agreements Podcast

Miguel: Sure. I used to be a doctor. I used to train in surgery. I`ve always operated with one of my brothers, a neurosurgeon. In a while I discovered that it wasn`t enough for me just not to understand the human body, because I have a bigger challenge. I really want to understand the human spirit, because I see that almost all the problems, from everyone, really come from the human mind. I see how science and technology have evolved a lot, and they are evolving very, very quickly, but psychology is lagging behind. Anyway, I decide not to be a doctor anymore. I went back to my mother and I got her wisdom and I practice for round, maybe, 10 years with her. [Inaudible 00:02:43] have an apprentice. I take people everywhere, to [inaudible 00:02:47], really, this is my place of instruction. I took her to Machu Picchu, Egypt, Greece, many places. All this was just because I really want to understand how the human mind works, and the result of all this study was the four chords, because the challenge is not to go to everyone and describe what psychology is, to say, “It`s an ego, a superego…

“Peter: It`s a very powerful vision, and what they say in the book here is that there are instructions for us as energy, and it`s the four chords, the four agreements that say that if we really want to show powerful in the world, that we ourselves, etomesticated, with free energy, the way to do that is to follow these four agreements , and the first one you`ve started to share is to be blameless with your word. Peter: And a little later in this podcast, in this conversation, I want to talk about this very particular point, because from a communicative point of view, I think you`re doing this brilliantly, that you`re writing a book that can really reach a very large group of people, regardless of education, regardless of prior knowledge, in a way that affects people. So I`d like to talk in a minute about how you did this trial. Before I do that, let`s talk about the book itself, and you start talking about the problem that requires us to have these four agreements, and that problem is related to what you call the domestication of people. Can only talk about a small amount of money? Peter: Welcome to the Bregman Leadership podcast. I`m Peter Bregman, your host and CEO of Bregman Partners. This podcast is part of my mission to help them get massive traction on the most important things. We are honoured to have Don Miguel Ruiz with us today. He wrote the number one bestseller, the Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom. Miguel just told me that the book was on the New York Times bestseller list for seven years, but it came back 20 years later and became number one on the New York Times bestseller list. It is a book that has for many years remained with men and continues to have wisdom, which offers us practical modes of action in the world, which offers us personal freedom, but also, I think, lessons to be learned from leadership, ways of acting in the world that help us to be more powerful leaders. Miguel, thank you for participating in the bregman leadership podcast.

Peter: It`s beautiful. Katie Byron, who is also in this podcast, talks about her four questions, and her second question is, “How do I know it`s true?” And that seems to be a very relevant question. If you say, “I`m ugly” or “I`m weak.” It`s true? You could even say, “Yes, I probably think that`s true” because they were convinced. They were domesticated. It`s your belief system. The following question: “How do I know this is true?” Help you challenge this next hypothesis. Miguel: Perfect, and so we create a masterpiece of [inaudible 00:10:54], which is the story of our life because we create history, we create our own reality.